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His Sheltered Friend Might Be in for a Shock about Furry Art on the Web

Ask Papabear - Wed 30 Apr 2014 - 08:29
Dear Papabear,

Sorry for bothering you multiple times over the past year, but I've found your advice to be some of the most helpful stuff in the fandom (yeah, we'll get to that in a minute).

Let me jump right in on this one. I have a friend who I know outside of furry-related stuff. We first connected about 4 or 5 years ago, through some local email group that was (and still is, to a degree) relevant to us in terms of location and education.

This friend of mine is really sheltered. And when I say really sheltered, I mean REALLY sheltered. This has never been a problem for me. If his parents want to make him so sheltered that he doesn't know what's really socially acceptable, that's up to them (mind you, that has little to no relevance to my question, but it is still true).

My problem arose when I added him as a friend on Facebook a few months ago. He's still as innocent as before, but he's started taking a liking to a particular art form that we furs seem to be commonly associated with. If you thought I meant porn ... well, I have nothing to say about that. No, I mean anthropomorphic art. He seems into the art of anthropomorphic animals.

No problem, right? Well, this is where I messed up. Before I really caught onto that he's into anthro stuff, I posted a few pictures on Facebook of anthro stuff by furry artists. Nothing inappropriate, mind you, just general furry art.

He ended up asking about it, and I couldn't just ignore him, so I sent him a link to a particular Orlando Fox's (who did the art I posted on Facebook, making sure I technically owned the rights to distribute the art in question) Twitter page. Fortunately, that seemed to not cause any problems at all.

What I'm worrying about is that he seems to be inching closer and closer to the fandom. When I tweeted about this, I was met with "bring him in" tweets. But that's the problem. Remember how I mentioned he's super sheltered? Well, that means that if he were to accidentally stumble across just one piece of mature furry art, or if he were to look at what anti-furs say about furries, he'd probably be either very confused, or he'd be running. Either way, I'm sure his parents will find out about it. That's what I'm afraid of.

Don't get me wrong, his parents are very nice and very responsible people, as well as fantastic parents, but I'm sure if they found out that there is that stuff in the fandom, and that I am linked to the fandom, that would be more than just the end of my relationship with that family (we've already discussed this topic when I emailed you about my father and his reaction to me joining the fandom).

So my question boils down to this: should I take measures to make sure he stays away from the fandom, or should I take measures to give him a very slow introduction to the fandom, while trying to keep that art away?

I realize this letter is incredibly long-winded, and I do apologize for that, but I had to clear up details before I asked the actual question, otherwise the answer would be a lot simpler.

Thanks!

Sil (age 15)

* * *

Welcome Back, Sil,

Glad I could help you in the past; now let’s look at this current predicament. What I noticed right away was a bit of a contradiction regarding the parents: you say they are “fantastic parents” but fantastic parents wouldn’t shelter their child so much that he would be afraid of the outside world and not know how to deal with social situations. Only thing I can figure out is that you are leaving out an important detail, such as he is emotionally or mentally handicapped (it could also be physical, but instinct tells me it’s one of the other two). If that is indeed the case, then it would be very wrong of you to deliberately expose him to things that could frighten or traumatize him in some way. Even though you say this has “no relevance to my question,” it really does—very much so! If you are dealing with a—I assume—teenager entering puberty at the same time he is dealing with a mental or emotional disorder, then you really need to be careful!

We can easily assume that if this friend of yours starts looking at furry sites on a regular basis, he is going to quickly stumble upon adult imagery, much of it having to do with fetishes he won’t be able to begin to comprehend. It’s not a matter of “if” but “when.” (The tone of your letter also hints at you perhaps feeling guilty, thinking you're the one who introduced him to furry art in the first place, yes?)

If I am right about your friend, and if you are correct that he has very good parents, then the people to talk to first about the fandom are his parents not your friend. It would be unfair to both him and his parents to have him discover something disturbing, becoming traumatized in some way, all without his parents knowing what’s going on with their own child or how to help him.

On the other paw, let’s say that your pal is a perfectly normal person in every way except that his parents have sheltered him too much. This is not a good thing for the kid, not at all. In this case, I would give him a slow, measured, guided tour of the fandom, trying in every way to introduce him to things slowly and with an explanation at each and every step. This means a lot of work on your part, if you are willing to do that and be a good friend. That’s sort of your second option that you posed, giving him the slow introduction, but it would be futile to think that you could keep his eyes from adult art forever, so prepare him for that as best you can. Inform him he is going to probably stumble on some sexual things and try to explain what and why those are on the Web.

Again, if I am right about the first option, I would go to the parents first. A good way to do this, since your father is cool with the fandom now, is for both you and your father to discuss it with them. The fewer surprises the better!

Good luck!

Papabear

His Sheltered Friend Might Be in for a Shock about Furry Art on the Web

Ask Papabear - Wed 30 Apr 2014 - 08:29
Dear Papabear,

Sorry for bothering you multiple times over the past year, but I've found your advice to be some of the most helpful stuff in the fandom (yeah, we'll get to that in a minute).

Let me jump right in on this one. I have a friend who I know outside of furry-related stuff. We first connected about 4 or 5 years ago, through some local email group that was (and still is, to a degree) relevant to us in terms of location and education.

This friend of mine is really sheltered. And when I say really sheltered, I mean REALLY sheltered. This has never been a problem for me. If his parents want to make him so sheltered that he doesn't know what's really socially acceptable, that's up to them (mind you, that has little to no relevance to my question, but it is still true).

My problem arose when I added him as a friend on Facebook a few months ago. He's still as innocent as before, but he's started taking a liking to a particular art form that we furs seem to be commonly associated with. If you thought I meant porn ... well, I have nothing to say about that. No, I mean anthropomorphic art. He seems into the art of anthropomorphic animals.

No problem, right? Well, this is where I messed up. Before I really caught onto that he's into anthro stuff, I posted a few pictures on Facebook of anthro stuff by furry artists. Nothing inappropriate, mind you, just general furry art.

He ended up asking about it, and I couldn't just ignore him, so I sent him a link to a particular Orlando Fox's (who did the art I posted on Facebook, making sure I technically owned the rights to distribute the art in question) Twitter page. Fortunately, that seemed to not cause any problems at all.

What I'm worrying about is that he seems to be inching closer and closer to the fandom. When I tweeted about this, I was met with "bring him in" tweets. But that's the problem. Remember how I mentioned he's super sheltered? Well, that means that if he were to accidentally stumble across just one piece of mature furry art, or if he were to look at what anti-furs say about furries, he'd probably be either very confused, or he'd be running. Either way, I'm sure his parents will find out about it. That's what I'm afraid of.

Don't get me wrong, his parents are very nice and very responsible people, as well as fantastic parents, but I'm sure if they found out that there is that stuff in the fandom, and that I am linked to the fandom, that would be more than just the end of my relationship with that family (we've already discussed this topic when I emailed you about my father and his reaction to me joining the fandom).

So my question boils down to this: should I take measures to make sure he stays away from the fandom, or should I take measures to give him a very slow introduction to the fandom, while trying to keep that art away?

I realize this letter is incredibly long-winded, and I do apologize for that, but I had to clear up details before I asked the actual question, otherwise the answer would be a lot simpler.

Thanks!

Sil (age 15)

* * *

Welcome Back, Sil,

Glad I could help you in the past; now let’s look at this current predicament. What I noticed right away was a bit of a contradiction regarding the parents: you say they are “fantastic parents” but fantastic parents wouldn’t shelter their child so much that he would be afraid of the outside world and not know how to deal with social situations. Only thing I can figure out is that you are leaving out an important detail, such as he is emotionally or mentally handicapped (it could also be physical, but instinct tells me it’s one of the other two). If that is indeed the case, then it would be very wrong of you to deliberately expose him to things that could frighten or traumatize him in some way. Even though you say this has “no relevance to my question,” it really does—very much so! If you are dealing with a—I assume—teenager entering puberty at the same time he is dealing with a mental or emotional disorder, then you really need to be careful!

We can easily assume that if this friend of yours starts looking at furry sites on a regular basis, he is going to quickly stumble upon adult imagery, much of it having to do with fetishes he won’t be able to begin to comprehend. It’s not a matter of “if” but “when.” (The tone of your letter also hints at you perhaps feeling guilty, thinking you're the one who introduced him to furry art in the first place, yes?)

If I am right about your friend, and if you are correct that he has very good parents, then the people to talk to first about the fandom are his parents not your friend. It would be unfair to both him and his parents to have him discover something disturbing, becoming traumatized in some way, all without his parents knowing what’s going on with their own child or how to help him.

On the other paw, let’s say that your pal is a perfectly normal person in every way except that his parents have sheltered him too much. This is not a good thing for the kid, not at all. In this case, I would give him a slow, measured, guided tour of the fandom, trying in every way to introduce him to things slowly and with an explanation at each and every step. This means a lot of work on your part, if you are willing to do that and be a good friend. That’s sort of your second option that you posed, giving him the slow introduction, but it would be futile to think that you could keep his eyes from adult art forever, so prepare him for that as best you can. Inform him he is going to probably stumble on some sexual things and try to explain what and why those are on the Web.

Again, if I am right about the first option, I would go to the parents first. A good way to do this, since your father is cool with the fandom now, is for both you and your father to discuss it with them. The fewer surprises the better!

Good luck!

Papabear

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Furballd - Wed 30 Apr 2014 - 07:08

Is it a full episode?  Is it just a Specialballd?  Not even we know!

This is a very strange episode of Furballd, where Killick and Sepko (Ringo is lost in the Caves of the Cascading Style Sheets) just talk about two movies they have seen recently.

**SPOILER ALERT**

We discuss the Lego Movie and Captain America: The Winter Soldier in great spoilerific detail.  If you have not seen either of these movies then we suggest you give this one a miss.  Or if you just want to hear about Captain America then skip forward about 30 minutes.

Bye for now, but not forever!

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Episode 70 – The Lego Movie and Captain America 2 Spoilercast! Because Why Not? - Is it a full episode?  Is it just a Specialballd?  Not even we know! - This is a very strange episode of Furballd, where Killick and Sepko (Ringo is lost in the Caves of the Cascading Style Sheets) just talk about two movies they have seen recently. -
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My first time drawing anything furry

Furry Reddit - Wed 30 Apr 2014 - 02:20
Categories: News

So I'm a little new...

Furry Reddit - Wed 30 Apr 2014 - 01:02

Hey. I just recently started accepting the fact that I, in all honesty, am a furry. That I just simply feel better being in my "fursona". I'm curious as to what reddit pages to go to to learn more and to help develop my fursona.

Also, how much does it cost to typically get artwork done?

Thanks!

  • Oath
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Episode 250 - KnotFurled

Southpaws - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 23:47
This is the episode we recorded with the Canadians. They are so very polite. These fine gents are from http://www.unfurled.net/ Use our coupon code ‘knot’ at AdamEve.com for a great deal~ Episode 250 - KnotFurled
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Little Lion!

Furry.Today - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 23:40

Little Lion! What are you doing? The little lion meets a mystery magic animal in the woods.

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Zander zeh Wolf

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 23:12
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Gen, the anubis-jackal hybrid.

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 23:08
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Jayce - The Burger King!

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 23:05
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I got some serious problems! help?

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 22:56

Hello! I'm Marcus. I'm a 19yo male from Sweden. I discovered the furry fandom about 2-3 years ago. But enough about that.

I have some troubles following me trough my whole life, ever since i was around 7-8yo (2001-2002). Back then i started getting bullied week after week, so eventually i started consider suicide. Luckily enough i pulled trough. I switched school so that is why

About 4 or so years later (2006ish) i started to get bullied again and short story i tried suicide again. But i pulled trough again and switched school again.

Around year 2009 it all happened again tho this was going on untill around 2011-2012 and that is when i found the furry fandom and MLP witch saved me from another suicide attempt.

Now recently there is a guy who have started bullying me again and i have started considering suicide again. It is all because of me as a furry and brony.

Don't come and tell me to go to a psychiatrist or something like that, i've already gone to one for about 5 years time and it barely helps. Same with my parents, they have tried.

So what i would like you guys to help me with is to find furries that lives fairly close to me that shares the same life or atleast similar situations. I feel like someone who has gone trough the same is what i need to find happines again. I have drowned my sorrows in furries, mlp and videogames.

I have about 3 friends IRL and 100's online but it does not really matter.

I might as well add that friends from anywhere can help! Just that the closer the better. If anyone wants to pm me skype or steam feel free to as friends is the best thing in a persons life, can't have to many friends.

Edit: Added last sentence. Edit 2: Added one more sentence.

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Here's Willy!

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 22:41
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Crawling back into the fandom

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 22:32

A few years ago I snuck into the furry fandom slowly, through the back door, and I eventually wound up writing an entire furry novel.

Unfortunately I've had some RL issues related to my fursona (female fursona, male IRL), and I haven't touched my novel in 11 months for semi-related reasons (particularly me realizing that one of my writing partners and I needed to be away from each other).

I'm looking for some advice:

1. I'm having trouble shaking off (and I kinda don't want to) the idea of having a female fursona, but the one I have now is a bit painful to me. Any emotional advice on making a new one? 2. I never got much interest in my novel when it was on deviantART. I never bothered going on FA or any other sites. Would I get more interest in something furry/"anthro fiction" (as I called it) if I went to a furry community?

Thanks so much in advance!

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Any furries in or around (West) Tennessee?

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 21:37

Can't seem to find any here. All the ones I've met are either East or west coast, foreign, or just a few states over.

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More photos from our fundraising furmeet

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 21:17
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Why dont a lot of suiters talk?

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 19:24

I know they're playing a character, but it's kinda awkward to talk to someone and they just sqeek or nod... I dunno its just weird to me.

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Furrtrax

Furry Reddit - Tue 29 Apr 2014 - 18:16

For those of you who don't know, and this was mentioned a while ago by u/DrVulpini, there is an online site (also mobile) for furs to meet other furs. Go check it out here!

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