Father of the Pride officially canceled. Petition up to save it.
Posted by Anon on Wed 24 Nov 2004 - 11:09 — Edited by mwalimu as of Sun 9 Jul 2017 - 00:28
NBC officially gives the show the axe. The remaining six episodes will air after November sweeps.
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One of these days, network television will actually stop catering to the lowest common denominator and actually properly promote and place a show like FotP, which is actually funny, compared to the junk that makes up most of the "sitcom" field. This was the first show to draw me back to network television, outside of news and a couple of specific sports, and I knew it was going to die because it was too smart.
Father of the Pride was cancelled due to the fact that they weren't bringing in enough money to warrent the almost 1.6 million dollars it took per episode to make it. That's why they cancelled it. No petition is going to bring it back unless someone else pays for the show, or else the ratings skyrocket. I doubt either will happen.
"Father of the Pride" cost NBC $1.6 million per half-hour episode and has seen its ratings slump as it placed fourth in its time slot last week, the paper reported.
Business wise, I wouldn't throw 1.6 million dollars at something that was only coming up in fourth place either. NBC can't afford to lose more money. After it lost Seinfeld, it's been on the decline.
Presumably, shows like FotP will become less expensive in the future, as computer animation advances. There will be a cost for writers and voice actors, but that shouldn't be anywhere near $1.6M/episode.
Maybe the show was just ahead of its time?
Good point. Unfortunately, I think NBC did a lacklustre job of promoting it, and unfortunately, critics seemed to beat it up - though I can't quite figure out why. It's a shame.
Ah well. I hope it gets a DVD release. I wasn't keeping my tapes from week to week.
I guess because it's animated, and therefore it's For Children, but the writing contains adult themes, and therefore it's Not For Children.
I wonder how long the American preconception of animation as an infantile medium will last. I also wonder what can be done to change it.
I think NBC did a lacklustre job of promoting it
Then you had your head up your rear end, since the show was slathered all over the country in billboards and bus ads, and almost every commercial break leading up to and during Athens Olympics had something for it.
Ah, but which country? Tony's Canadian.
So he was making a statement about the show's promotion without ever being around to see it. That's still dumb.
Umm, he watched it regularly. I know because he's a friend of mine on IRC.
Actually, yeah, I saw the promos leading up to it, and felt they were marketed poorly. I'm in the media, so I sort of know how marketing works, 'k, and while yeah, it was marketed widely, it was not *targeted* all that well. It was not promoted hard enough as an adult-oriented show, which meant critics and advertisers watched it and went "OHMYGOD THAT'S TERRIBLE CALL JERRY FALWELL" because of the content - the typical reaction to adult-oriented animation in North America. Thus, families were tuning in and going "This has sexual innuendo and is not appropriate for our kids, let's watch something violent instead!" and changing the channel.
Money spent on marketing doesn't mean a thing unless it's spent well and well-aimed. Throwing the thing up on billboards and in every commercial spot did a nice job of getting people to realize it's out there, but it attracted the wrong audiences. Wrong audience and, actually, a bad time slot to boot, and boom. Dead.
So excuse me for being "dumb" and "having my head up my ass" and whatever else. This is an informed opinion.
It could come back, you never know.
awe come on, are we really THAT despirate?
i'll admit i've only seen one episode and while the art was better then ok, the story line and context, was ... sheesh gimmmi a break
maybe that's the best we can hope for or expect to see on the broadcast tube, i sincerely hope not.
of course i also realize quality of content has absolutely nothing to do with what gets aired and what doesn't.
someday if people ever again stop worshipping little green pieces of paper to the virtual exclusion of almost everything else, maybe they'll be a little more hope.
but hell's bell's, who needs the damd greed driven media anyway?
if it had been about a real furry world, one that addressed issues like making infrastructure habitate sustainable, the way i cannot invision a real furry world not being, then maybe we might have had something.
i really felt the whole context of it, of what i saw of it any way, was talking down to us. as if it had anywhere to talk down to us from.
sorry but much as i'd love to see REAL furry content, i'll NOT miss THAT one!
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What a hunk of pure crap this show was. Jokes cribbed from "Family Guy" and "The Simpsons" and stuck into CG animation that not even Pixar's B-team would consider releasing, with acting that was phoned in by disinterested talent just there for a paycheck. And at a cost per episode that would pay for an entire season of shows like "Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends" and have enough left over for a few eps of "Sealab 2021."
If furry fandom wants to try to improve how people see it, it needs to stop clasping junk like this to its collective bosom hard enough to make their nipples shoot out their backs. The sooner this stops, the sooner we stop looking like Trekkies supporting "Enterprise."
The real sad thing is that even with the lousy quality of the show, there was one aspect of it I would have liked to have seen continued: The Siegfreid and Roy segments. They were better written and better performed than anything involving the animals. As Siegfried would have said, "I vant ze UMMMMM..."
http://www.pcavote.com/voting/tv/t01.shtml
Please vote for Father Of The Pride in People's Choice Awards' category of Favorite New TV Comedy.
Hopefully an award (or a decent number of votes) will increase the chance that a company will create new episodes of FOTPride.
Please vote now!
[ End of voting was supposed to be on 2004 Nov 29 but I voted 2 hours ago and my vote was apparently successful:
"Your vote has been submitted."
"Thank you for voting for your Favorite New TV Comedy." ]
I thought that FOTP was the best new comedy that was played. Not played out. I feel as if it was much better than any of the current comedy/cartoons that are on the TV now making millions. I think if they would give it a chance it would really turn a lot of viewers
heads. I for one told several of my friends an co-workers about it and before they could even get a chance to watch it they took it off the air. They shoud sell the series on DVD. I know I would spend the money to see it all again. Not to mention the episodes they havent even aired. It had a poor time slot at the time. Please bring it back!!!!
Check out the new petitions to bring back the show!
http://www.activism.com/en_US/petition/save-father-of-the-pride/182594
Don't forget the tiger accident Siegfre was involved with that's has Alot to do with the show causeSiegfre and Roy Co produced it.
Siegfre and Roy
Siegfried and Roy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siegfried_%26_Roy
Fred Patten
* Siegfried and Roy.
www.thepetitionsite.com/345/778/039/re-open-imagi-animation-studios/
Be sure to sign and share these to bring the show back!
https://www.change.org/p/jeffrey-katzenberg-bring-back-father-of-the-pride-with-...
https://www.change.org/p/dreamworks-rerun-father-of-the-pride-on-adult-swim-nbc-...
https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/bring-back-father-of-the-pride
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/476/350/588/show-reruns-of-father-of-the-pride/
Sorry to say, but NBC clearly has no interest in bringing back FotP, not after it quickly flopped after the first episode and panned by TV critics (and yes, they did promote it. Heavily. I recalled seeing a lot of ads for it during the 2004 Olympics) and it's going to take a hell of a lot more then a few thousand fans on the internet to get them to bring it back. Not to mention online petitions are not the most effective way to get a big businesses attention, considering there's nothing to stop the same person from signing as many times as (s)he likes.
If you want to see any impact, go buy the DVD for it. Stronger sales and reaction on in the internet may lead them to reconsider. But in the end, I would just move on and accept it's never coming back.
You guys know this show is genuinely considered a giant piece of shit by most everyone, right?
It was quite good for TV CGI in its day. But its day was thirteen years ago.
Fred Patten
It was never just the animation that was the problem; it was everything ... screw it, I'm ripping a forum post from a (non-furry) guy who just decided to randomly watch the whole thing after that Wiki article got posted there:
While I don't consider the show a masterpiece or anything, on the whole I found it entertaining and amusing. I certainly wouldn't dump on it like this critic, whose review seems overly obsessed with various characters' sexual orientation and potentially non-heteronormative relationships. I'd probably rate the show 3.5/5.
That said, there's no realistic chance of the show coming back, and no amount of repeat posting here by a latecomer obsessed with the notion is going to change that.
Anything is possible.
Anything is absolutely possible.
http://www.activism.com/en_US/signatures/save-father-of-the-pride/182594/8
Actually, it is possible it may return one day. Never say never.
Plus, there are actually a majority of people that I know who actually love the series and want it back.
Finally, no need to be so pessimistic.
PLEASE BRING BACK FATHER OF THE PRIDE!!!
Spamming us here won't bring it back, Anthony. It's been 12 years dude! That's a long time to be stuck in the denial phase.
Equivamp, stop stealing my job!
Why can't people see the show is really not that bad?
BRING IT BACK!
I miss this show..
Sorry, but don't you guys miss the show?
Sorry, but it needs to be said.
FATHER OF THE PRIDE MUST COME BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/345/778/039/re-open-imagi-animation-studios/
Please bring this show back!